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RES: RES: [AAT] Anthropogeny.net Will the AAT-group ignore the Bioko-hypothesis, just as paleoanthropologists ignore the AAT?
Thanks for the answers!
De: AAT@groups.io <AAT@groups.io> Em nome de Allan Krill
Enviada em: terça-feira, 31 de março de 2020 05:30
Para: AAT@groups.io
Assunto: Re: RES: [AAT] Anthropogeny.net
Thanks for the answers!
De: AAT@groups.io <AAT@groups.io> Em nome de Allan Krill
Enviada em: terça-feira, 31 de março de 2020 05:30
Para: AAT@groups.io
Assunto: Re: RES: [AAT] Anthropogeny.net
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Felipe Carvalho
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#66648
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Re: Bioko and Afar are both good candidates for AAT location
Oh yes, regarding DNA and *other* evidence, DNA says that chimps are our closest relatives. But viruses, bacteria, illnesses that we have, we share more of those with orangutan than with
Oh yes, regarding DNA and *other* evidence, DNA says that chimps are our closest relatives. But viruses, bacteria, illnesses that we have, we share more of those with orangutan than with
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Mario Petrinovic <mario.petrinovic1@...>
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#66647
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Re: Bioko and Afar are both good candidates for AAT location
I think you are confusing something. First of all, the Molecular Clock dating was based on the Genetic Mutation Theory. It is actually this theory that is postulated by a religious
I think you are confusing something. First of all, the Molecular Clock dating was based on the Genetic Mutation Theory. It is actually this theory that is postulated by a religious
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Mario Petrinovic <mario.petrinovic1@...>
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#66646
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Re: Bioko and Afar are both good candidates for AAT location
As I read about Graecopithecus and Ouranothipthcus, I think that almost no one really believes that they are relevant for human evolution. Graecopithecus seems to be known from only one fossil find
As I read about Graecopithecus and Ouranothipthcus, I think that almost no one really believes that they are relevant for human evolution. Graecopithecus seems to be known from only one fossil find
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Allan Krill
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Re: Bioko and Afar are both good candidates for AAT location
Those that were in Europe came into Europe from Africa (gibbons supposedly 22 mya, the rest of them sometime around 16 - 17 mya). This would imply chimp/human separation before 17 mya. We
Those that were in Europe came into Europe from Africa (gibbons supposedly 22 mya, the rest of them sometime around 16 - 17 mya). This would imply chimp/human separation before 17 mya. We
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Mario Petrinovic <mario.petrinovic1@...>
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#66644
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Re: Bioko and Afar are both good candidates for AAT location
The argument that humans are "quick learners" isn't an argument. Humans, just like any other animal, do follow usual rules, there is no reason why they wouldn't follow, there is nothing
The argument that humans are "quick learners" isn't an argument. Humans, just like any other animal, do follow usual rules, there is no reason why they wouldn't follow, there is nothing
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Mario Petrinovic <mario.petrinovic1@...>
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#66643
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Re: Bioko and Afar are both good candidates for AAT location
Bioko last became separated from the mainland only 10 kya. But as you see in Figure 4 here: A paradigme for the evolution of human features Bioko was separated many times from the mainland, for long
Bioko last became separated from the mainland only 10 kya. But as you see in Figure 4 here: A paradigme for the evolution of human features Bioko was separated many times from the mainland, for long
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Allan Krill
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Re: Bioko and Afar are both good candidates for AAT location
On Mon, Mar 30, 2020 at 03:14 PM, Mario Petrinovic wrote:
DNA shows clearly that humans evolved from a chimpanzee-like ancestor. That ancestor evolved from a gorilla-chimpanzee-like ancestor.
On Mon, Mar 30, 2020 at 03:14 PM, Mario Petrinovic wrote:
DNA shows clearly that humans evolved from a chimpanzee-like ancestor. That ancestor evolved from a gorilla-chimpanzee-like ancestor.
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Allan Krill
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#66641
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Re: RES: [AAT] Anthropogeny.net Will the AAT-group ignore the Bioko-hypothesis, just as paleoanthropologists ignore the AAT?
On Mon, Mar 30, 2020 at 02:44 PM, Felipe Carvalho wrote:
Thanks Felipe, for 3 good comments. Here are my thoughts on them. 1. The exact location is not "important", but only interesting. It is not
On Mon, Mar 30, 2020 at 02:44 PM, Felipe Carvalho wrote:
Thanks Felipe, for 3 good comments. Here are my thoughts on them. 1. The exact location is not "important", but only interesting. It is not
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Allan Krill
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#66640
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Re: later S.Afr.apiths more chimp-like
Per my scenario, a creature that is habitually using fire was the source of fire that changed environment, starting from Vallesian Crisis, 9.6 mya. Ouranopithecus, Greacopithecus, and
Per my scenario, a creature that is habitually using fire was the source of fire that changed environment, starting from Vallesian Crisis, 9.6 mya. Ouranopithecus, Greacopithecus, and
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Mario Petrinovic <mario.petrinovic1@...>
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Re: later S.Afr.apiths more chimp-like
Op 31/03/20 00:43 heeft Mario Petrinovic <AAT@groups.io namens mario.petrinovic1@...> geschreven:
This is completely in tune with my scenarios.
Per my scenarios our ancestor lived on rocky
Op 31/03/20 00:43 heeft Mario Petrinovic <AAT@groups.io namens mario.petrinovic1@...> geschreven:
This is completely in tune with my scenarios.
Per my scenarios our ancestor lived on rocky
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Marc Verhaegen
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Re: later S.Afr.apiths more chimp-like
This is completely in tune with my scenarios.
Per my scenarios our ancestor lived on rocky coast. It was Australopithecus that was the first one to go living inland, fully bipedal
This is completely in tune with my scenarios.
Per my scenarios our ancestor lived on rocky coast. It was Australopithecus that was the first one to go living inland, fully bipedal
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Mario Petrinovic <mario.petrinovic1@...>
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later S.Afr.apiths more chimp-like
Evidence for habitual climbing in a Pleistocene hominin in South Africa
Leoni Georgiou cs 2020 PNAS
https://www.pnas.org/content/early/2020/03/25/1914481117
http://orcid.org/0000-0002-1582-3566
BPism
Evidence for habitual climbing in a Pleistocene hominin in South Africa
Leoni Georgiou cs 2020 PNAS
https://www.pnas.org/content/early/2020/03/25/1914481117
http://orcid.org/0000-0002-1582-3566
BPism
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Marc Verhaegen
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Re: Bioko and Afar are both good candidates for AAT location
Actually, it looks like today scientists take Graecopitehcus (hence Ouranopithecus) as the first examples of hominins. They are from Greece and Turkey. Graecopithecus is 7.2 mya, while
Actually, it looks like today scientists take Graecopitehcus (hence Ouranopithecus) as the first examples of hominins. They are from Greece and Turkey. Graecopithecus is 7.2 mya, while
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Mario Petrinovic <mario.petrinovic1@...>
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#66635
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Re: Bioko and Afar are both good candidates for AAT location
You are actually mentioning arguments against Bioko.
First, as I can read in Wikipedia, Bioko became separated from mainland only 10 kya.
But, it doesn't matter, your
You are actually mentioning arguments against Bioko.
First, as I can read in Wikipedia, Bioko became separated from mainland only 10 kya.
But, it doesn't matter, your
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Mario Petrinovic <mario.petrinovic1@...>
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#66634
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RES: [AAT] Anthropogeny.net Will the AAT-group ignore the Bioko-hypothesis, just as paleoanthropologists ignore the AAT?
Hello Allan,
I read some of your paper and the website. I find the idea compelling, sure.
Personally I have a few thoughts about your argument:
- I don’t think the exact location is all that
Hello Allan,
I read some of your paper and the website. I find the idea compelling, sure.
Personally I have a few thoughts about your argument:
- I don’t think the exact location is all that
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Felipe Carvalho
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#66633
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Re: John Hawks' new videos
Basically, we, and every other living being, have two levels. The level one is subconscious level, and feelings, and senses, and instincts, and emotions. The level two is cold intellectual,
Basically, we, and every other living being, have two levels. The level one is subconscious level, and feelings, and senses, and instincts, and emotions. The level two is cold intellectual,
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Mario Petrinovic <mario.petrinovic1@...>
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#66632
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Bioko and Afar are both good candidates for AAT location
Bioko and Afar are both good candidates for AAT location.
Arguments for Bioko as opposed to Afar:
1. Bioko was and still is an island, without large predators. An easy place for apes to be isolated
Bioko and Afar are both good candidates for AAT location.
Arguments for Bioko as opposed to Afar:
1. Bioko was and still is an island, without large predators. An easy place for apes to be isolated
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Allan Krill
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#66631
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Re: Anthropogeny.net Will the AAT-group ignore the Bioko-hypothesis, just as paleoanthropologists ignore the AAT?
But, there is not much difference from my version, where I am taking the Afar region as being barren volcanic. This is the same theory.
There is another similarity, Bioko is on
But, there is not much difference from my version, where I am taking the Afar region as being barren volcanic. This is the same theory.
There is another similarity, Bioko is on
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Mario Petrinovic <mario.petrinovic1@...>
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#66630
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Anthropogeny.net Will the AAT-group ignore the Bioko-hypothesis, just as paleoanthropologists ignore the AAT?
Please read the arguments for the Bioko-version of AAT at anthropogeny.net and the two articles linked there. And then let's discuss Bioko.
AAT will not go away, and neither will the Bioko version of
Please read the arguments for the Bioko-version of AAT at anthropogeny.net and the two articles linked there. And then let's discuss Bioko.
AAT will not go away, and neither will the Bioko version of
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Allan Krill
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#66629
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