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Jerry N9AVY
 

Hi All !

 

If more PSK31 operators submitted their logs to Club Log on a regular basis, it might show more activity on PSK31.  The results shown were undoubtedly skewed because many of the SSB/CW/FT8 users submit logs on a regular basis. 

 

I submit my logs about once every 6 months, but I think I should submit logs more often. People who read these results tend to think PSK31 is a dying or low activity mode which isn’t true. 

 

Submitting logs to club log is free and only requires a few minutes of your time.  Let’s pitch in and show the world that PSK31 is still a viable mode !

 

 

Jerry  n9avy

 

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Charles Odom, KI4VMK # 2542
 

My logging software uploads every QSO to Club Log in increments of 10
KI4VMK
#2542

On Dec 6, 2019, at 10:29 AM, Jerry N9AVY <n9avy@...> wrote:

Hi All !

 

If more PSK31 operators submitted their logs to Club Log on a regular basis, it might show more activity on PSK31.  The results shown were undoubtedly skewed because many of the SSB/CW/FT8 users submit logs on a regular basis. 

 

I submit my logs about once every 6 months, but I think I should submit logs more often. People who read these results tend to think PSK31 is a dying or low activity mode which isn’t true. 

 

Submitting logs to club log is free and only requires a few minutes of your time.  Let’s pitch in and show the world that PSK31 is still a viable mode !

 

 

Jerry  n9avy

 

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

 

stan robinson
 

Jerry,
Being intrinsically lazy, I wonder if an easier and less biased (NOT DEPENDING ON UPLOADS) activity chart might be obtainable from PSKReporter?

73,
Stan
W9SMR

________________________________________
From: 070Club@groups.io <070Club@groups.io> on behalf of Jerry N9AVY <@N9AVY>
Sent: Friday, December 6, 2019 11:29 AM
To: 070Club@groups.io
Subject: [070Club] Club Log results

Hi All !

If more PSK31 operators submitted their logs to Club Log on a regular basis, it might show more activity on PSK31. The results shown were undoubtedly skewed because many of the SSB/CW/FT8 users submit logs on a regular basis.

I submit my logs about once every 6 months, but I think I should submit logs more often. People who read these results tend to think PSK31 is a dying or low activity mode which isn’t true.

Submitting logs to club log is free and only requires a few minutes of your time. Let’s pitch in and show the world that PSK31 is still a viable mode !


Jerry n9avy

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Ray Clements
 

The PSK reporter site shows similar results to ClubLog. 

In the past 15 minutes, there have been 28 signals picked up for PSK out of a total of 4150. FT8 represented 3575 of the reports, FT4 represented 251, JS8 the derivation of FT8 represented 137, CW represented 25 reports. 

Thus, it does not matter what system you use to look at it, PSK has limited  use under the current band conditions. As we move toward the peak of the solar cycle over the next five years, hopefully, things will get better.

N9RWC


------ Original Message ------
Received: 12:25 PM CST, 12/06/2019
From: "stan robinson" <robinstan@...>
To: "070Club@groups.io" <070Club@groups.io>
Subject: Re: [070Club] Club Log results


Jerry,
Being intrinsically lazy, I wonder if an easier and less biased (NOT DEPENDING ON UPLOADS) activity chart might be obtainable from PSKReporter?

73,
Stan
W9SMR

________________________________________
From: 070Club@groups.io <070Club@groups.io> on behalf of Jerry N9AVY <n9avy@...>
Sent: Friday, December 6, 2019 11:29 AM
To: 070Club@groups.io
Subject: [070Club] Club Log results

Hi All !

If more PSK31 operators submitted their logs to Club Log on a regular basis, it might show more activity on PSK31. The results shown were undoubtedly skewed because many of the SSB/CW/FT8 users submit logs on a regular basis.

I submit my logs about once every 6 months, but I think I should submit logs more often. People who read these results tend to think PSK31 is a dying or low activity mode which isn’t true.

Submitting logs to club log is free and only requires a few minutes of your time. Let’s pitch in and show the world that PSK31 is still a viable mode !


Jerry n9avy

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Milton Garb
 

Fellow 070 members,
I've been following this all morning. Let me weigh in with a  "IMHO"...
New hams to the digital modes, no matter how tenured they may be in our hobby, are being attracted to FT8, it's ease of use, the power that can be used, the success that friends & they're experiencing, the free software and the dx-peditions using FT8.

There's a ham a few short miles away from my qth that's amassed 80 confirmed DXCC entities on 160 meters, just in the past few month's using an 11 year old transceiver, a 43' piece of wire, a few radials, an SGC tuner and 80 watts...all on FT8! 

The future of BPSK 31 and the other ambient modes associated with Phase Shift Keying, lies with us. We're the recruiters , and if we don't recruit to increase our numbers, our favorite mode, the friends that we've made here, the challenges we've met and awards we've earned will fall by the wayside.
All of the statistics quoted here, no matter the source, are all indicating the low percentage of hams interested in our favorite mode. Those statistics aren't misleading or convoluted. It remains at 1.54% for all PSK and 60.45% for FT8. All of us are at the same sunspot low, regardless of the mode. This being based on the statistics quoted from Club Log, but not quoting the duration of the data gathering.

More statistics are depressing and discouraging. Idea's for solutions, & encouragement for those that have stepped up to leadership positions when they were greatly needed, is exactly what's necessary!
Milt.
N6MG
070-650
LONP #76

-----Original Message-----
From: Ray Clements <r.clements@...>
To: 070Club <070Club@groups.io>
Sent: Fri, Dec 6, 2019 12:55 pm
Subject: Re: [070Club] Club Log results

The PSK reporter site shows similar results to ClubLog. 

In the past 15 minutes, there have been 28 signals picked up for PSK out of a total of 4150. FT8 represented 3575 of the reports, FT4 represented 251, JS8 the derivation of FT8 represented 137, CW represented 25 reports. 

Thus, it does not matter what system you use to look at it, PSK has limited  use under the current band conditions. As we move toward the peak of the solar cycle over the next five years, hopefully, things will get better.

N9RWC


------ Original Message ------
Received: 12:25 PM CST, 12/06/2019
From: "stan robinson" <robinstan@...>
To: "070Club@groups.io" <070Club@groups.io>
Subject: Re: [070Club] Club Log results


Jerry,
Being intrinsically lazy, I wonder if an easier and less biased (NOT DEPENDING ON UPLOADS) activity chart might be obtainable from PSKReporter?

73,
Stan
W9SMR

________________________________________
From: 070Club@groups.io <070Club@groups.io> on behalf of Jerry N9AVY <n9avy@...>
Sent: Friday, December 6, 2019 11:29 AM
To: 070Club@groups.io
Subject: [070Club] Club Log results

Hi All !

If more PSK31 operators submitted their logs to Club Log on a regular basis, it might show more activity on PSK31. The results shown were undoubtedly skewed because many of the SSB/CW/FT8 users submit logs on a regular basis.

I submit my logs about once every 6 months, but I think I should submit logs more often. People who read these results tend to think PSK31 is a dying or low activity mode which isn’t true.

Submitting logs to club log is free and only requires a few minutes of your time. Let’s pitch in and show the world that PSK31 is still a viable mode !


Jerry n9avy

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Jerry N9AVY
 

Good comments, Milt.

 

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From: Milton Garb via Groups.Io
Sent: Friday, December 6, 2019 5:20 PM
To: 070Club@groups.io
Subject: Re: [070Club] Club Log results

 

Fellow 070 members,

I've been following this all morning. Let me weigh in with a  "IMHO"...

New hams to the digital modes, no matter how tenured they may be in our hobby, are being attracted to FT8, it's ease of use, the power that can be used, the success that friends & they're experiencing, the free software and the dx-peditions using FT8.

 

There's a ham a few short miles away from my qth that's amassed 80 confirmed DXCC entities on 160 meters, just in the past few month's using an 11 year old transceiver, a 43' piece of wire, a few radials, an SGC tuner and 80 watts...all on FT8! 

 

The future of BPSK 31 and the other ambient modes associated with Phase Shift Keying, lies with us. We're the recruiters , and if we don't recruit to increase our numbers, our favorite mode, the friends that we've made here, the challenges we've met and awards we've earned will fall by the wayside.

All of the statistics quoted here, no matter the source, are all indicating the low percentage of hams interested in our favorite mode. Those statistics aren't misleading or convoluted. It remains at 1.54% for all PSK and 60.45% for FT8. All of us are at the same sunspot low, regardless of the mode. This being based on the statistics quoted from Club Log, but not quoting the duration of the data gathering.

 

More statistics are depressing and discouraging. Idea's for solutions, & encouragement for those that have stepped up to leadership positions when they were greatly needed, is exactly what's necessary!

Milt.

N6MG

070-650

LONP #76

 

-----Original Message-----
From: Ray Clements <r.clements@...>
To: 070Club <070Club@groups.io>
Sent: Fri, Dec 6, 2019 12:55 pm
Subject: Re: [070Club] Club Log results

The PSK reporter site shows similar results to ClubLog. 

 

In the past 15 minutes, there have been 28 signals picked up for PSK out of a total of 4150. FT8 represented 3575 of the reports, FT4 represented 251, JS8 the derivation of FT8 represented 137, CW represented 25 reports. 

 

Thus, it does not matter what system you use to look at it, PSK has limited  use under the current band conditions. As we move toward the peak of the solar cycle over the next five years, hopefully, things will get better.

 

N9RWC

------ Original Message ------
Received: 12:25 PM CST, 12/06/2019
From: "stan robinson" <robinstan@...>
To: "070Club@groups.io" <070Club@groups.io>
Subject: Re: [070Club] Club Log results

Jerry,
Being intrinsically lazy, I wonder if an easier and less biased (NOT DEPENDING ON UPLOADS) activity chart might be obtainable from PSKReporter?

73,
Stan
W9SMR

________________________________________
From: 070Club@groups.io <070Club@groups.io> on behalf of Jerry N9AVY <n9avy@...>
Sent: Friday, December 6, 2019 11:29 AM
To: 070Club@groups.io
Subject: [070Club] Club Log results

Hi All !

If more PSK31 operators submitted their logs to Club Log on a regular basis, it might show more activity on PSK31. The results shown were undoubtedly skewed because many of the SSB/CW/FT8 users submit logs on a regular basis.

I submit my logs about once every 6 months, but I think I should submit logs more often. People who read these results tend to think PSK31 is a dying or low activity mode which isn’t true.

Submitting logs to club log is free and only requires a few minutes of your time. Let’s pitch in and show the world that PSK31 is still a viable mode !


Jerry n9avy

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On Fri, Dec 6, 2019 at 06:20 PM, Milton Garb wrote
We're the recruiters ,  I joined PODXS two and a half yrs ago and there have been only 146 new members since,   58 newbies a year, pretty poor growth. 
I'm not sure how difficult it is to create a new endorsement but I think a "Recruitment Endorsement" could help increase membership.  Add to the application form a spot that asks "Who got you interested in PODXS?"  Create different levels and there will be a lot more of us talking up the club and the membership should grow.  I've seen a few members talking the club up to stations and  a few days later I see that station has joined the club, so talking it up works.

As I said, I joined two and a half yrs ago, however I started to work FT8 for 5 or 6 months and left PSK.  I did work psk every once and a while and ran into Stan (W9SMR) and we got chatting abt PODXS and I told him I could never figure out how to upload my log and he explained how to do it.  Yup, it is explained in the welcome package, the one I put away in the bottom drawer and never read.  hihi  Since that day I have worked only psk31 mode.  The challenges gave me new incentive, no more FT8.  About 5 or 6 weeks ago I added to the macro that tells how I qsl,  "I also upload to PODXS".  Since then I have had at least 5 members ask me how to upload the log.  Guess I'm not the only one that filed that welcome package away.

KB3RAN 1692/381
 

I'll add that to my macros when I get back on the air in January. Currently travelling in Asia without a radio.
--
Dave H
KB3RAN
1692/381